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From: (The Path Of Rage)
Date: 07 Feb 1999
Time: 09:16:58
Remote Name: 209.240.200.72
Group: alt.discuss.webtv.hacking Date: Tue, Feb 2, 1999, 2:43am (EST-1) From: Ecwfrk2@webtv.net (The Path Of Rage) Re: A little something for all of ya... 8-(
I won't play your game ulTRAX. But if you think I'll let you lie, you're sadly mistaken.
This formula worked well untill it was discovered that ECW was making private deals own trading highly sensitive information in the group pool.
You mean like giving everything we had away to an idiot like DRY_ICE because you went behind our backs making stupid trades for things we already had?
Rather than admit that he had made a mistake I did admit it was a mistake. That wasn't good enough for you. You wanted a damn vow.
I wouldn't do that. I worked with a group of people. All but 1 was very talented. 1 was a goddamn courier. We never agreed we were an organised group and we never proposed or agreed upon rules. If you thought all my info was to be kept exclusive, you didn't think as I did. I'm sorry for that. I expected and assumed that my info was being given to deserving people who could use the info to furter our goal. I didn't know we were some 371773 h4x0r group that was to hoard all info for our own selfish use. As far as I could tell you were the only one that thought that. And hell, I gave the info to someone I trusted to do something with it that we couldn't. You're the moron that came in here drunk and posted it. But since it was you and you gave a smart ass appology it was fine. Just like the DRY_ICE trade was fine because we said the DOOM codes weren't valuable to us anymore and would make a good trade. Well look what that got us. Me giving away that code got us a really nice gateway into a really nice place now didn't it? You're druken stupor just got you a bunch of stolen SSID#s (and I think the drunk part was just a lame excuse to hide the fact that you were stealing SSID#s in the first place) Since then he has given away the work and contributions of other's in the group... Bullshit! I have not given away any contributions other than my own findings since then asshole. If you have proof otherwise, then post it. If not, shut your lying, credit stealing pie hole. yet still maintaining his holier than thou veneer. Me holier than thou? I think not. That's why I posted willies. I was hoping that someone better than me could do something with it. It was just getting old in my possesion. He is now claiming that I take credit for the work of others. Yep. And I have 6 E-Mails so far from others telling me about your theft but they are afraid to post because they are afraid the great ulTRAX will blackball them. You rely on that fear. Well guess what? I don't fear you. I can stand on my own. I don't give a shit what ulTRAX says or does so I'll speak the truth. my posts and HP I give credit ever chance I get. Uh huh. But that's only when there is indisputable proof that someone else found it or it is so well known that someone else found it. Otherwise I see your name next to it. How much credit is ECW giving for info he's giving away? As I said, the techique I used to get the killer willie pages wasn't mine. Which is why I won't give it out. I didn't say who did find the technique because it's not my pace to say. If he wants credit, he can claim it. The pages themselves *were* found by me. So they are mine to give as I see fit. Sorry ECW... your bullshit didn't fly a month ago, it doesn't fly now. But go ahead... rant and rave all you want. Hey, you're the one lying in a hasty attempt to cover your ass. I know people will still buy your bullshit no matter what I say. But as I said. I can stand on my own. I don't need people to believe in what I did. You need others to believe in you becuse without their hand outs, you'd be nothing. I'd rather they start seeing what is happening to this group and wise up to the fact that there are others more deserving than you they can work with to reach their goals. I don't care if it's MattMan, BONEHAM1, real-act, DB, or any of the others here. All those names would be a better choice than you. So go ahead and post more lies and twisted half truths. Some of the sheep will follow you. But the ones who will really achive success is the ones who wise up and stop playing you're stupid game.